Where shall I begin...
PCW's Back to School Bash is two weeks away! There has been a very strong interest in tickets and we're all very excited about the show. Samoa Joe is a fantastic performer and the card looks great!
Kenny Omega recently returned following a couple matches, most notably with JAPW. All accounts are that Kenny blew away the fans and management. Kenny told me that he thought it would take a few trips to really get his foot in the door, but apparently, one was all the needed. Good for him!!
I conversed with Mentallo earlier today and he advised me to plan to not have him back anytime soon which is fantastic news for him and his fans because it means he's staying in Mexico longer then anticipated. I couldn't be happier to "lose" a guy!
PCW announcer (and host of The Squared Circle) Mike Arnott and I took in the RME show last Friday night. From what I understand Glendale is their "premier" venue and I was looking forward to a "stacked" card and a great show.
I won't get as detailed as I did for their Canada Day show because at that time, I was witnessing the event mostly on a dare by their promoter Angus. Last week, Mike and I went because we wanted to check out a wrestling show. It's good to see what your competition is doing (though no member of RME management has seen a PCW event in years for some reason...).
I will say that it was a stronger effort then their Canada Show but they are hindered by their obvious lack of depth. Oddly enough, I still haven't heard from Angus who continues to pursue members of my roster who continue to decline or advise him to "talk to Andrew".
Depth aside, the show was notable for two seemingly legit retirements - TJ Bratt and Justin Tyme. Though Bratt and I have been at odds more often then not, I wish him luck in his post-wrestling life. He certainly made an impact on the local industry. I was surprised that the retirement happened when it did as I was under the impression he was planning to work the rest of the year. And if he is really retiring, I am surprised he didn't request it to happen at the LID.
Bratt will be remembered by many as "lightening in a bottle" - a guy who was the right person booked in the right angle at the right time back in TRCW in 2001 at the Palladium. I don't think it would be unfair to describe Bratt as somewhat self-destructive but perhaps he fell victim to "too much too soon". He definitely helped make me a wrestling fans back in 2001 and put on some fantastic performances over the years.
His "Doin' it Alone" gimmick and angle against MVP was gold, though it ultimately suffered due to a change in booker. I recall being somewhat confused when Bratt lost the climactic encounter with Madison and then disappeared for awhile. When he came back, Rob Stardom had become the top babyface attraction doing hardcore every week and TRCW was declining every week.
Justin Tyme won't be missed by many in the business. His career began with a lot of promise. I remember hearing about this kid as having a ton of potential, but he never lived up to it. We recently exchanged emails where he expressed his shrinking desire for the business and how he had often been encouraged to take steroids to improve his look. My advice was, 'you don't need juice, but a gym and some training wouldn't hurt'. I think Tyme was a guy who never really wanted it as much as others wanted it for him. When he was in PCW briefly, it was clear he just didn't have the commitment to live up to his hype or the push he was getting. At the RME show, he was so totally lost in his match with Rob Stardom, I was embarrassed for him. Following the pin, he immediately jumped to him feet and no-sold. Brutal. Bye bye.
Some other observations about the show (these are my opinion, afterall, what do I know):
- A too-long promo to start the show. Especially with kids, it's best to start with a fast paced opener. But the promo did set the stage for the show. However, what was the point of stripping Jon Cutler of the title if you're going to have a tournament a month later when he's healthy? Why not just wait for him to get healthy or drop the strap that night or do an injury angle building to a big match with a major issue? It didn't make sense to me and, in my opinion, hurt the belt and hurt the next guy to get it. I'd be very interested in hearing the shoot reasons behind that decision (someone in the know please educate me) or why that decision is good for business.
- Another lack of depth issue is the fact RME was forced to use guys in positions far above their pay grade. For example, Bradley Scott. Scott needs a gimmick. I'm not going to say he sucks and should be out of the business at all. He's been around awhile, he's training, he seems like a nice guy. He needs a gimmick. Generic, babyface isn't cutting it and exposes him as bland and uninteresting. What bothered me about this match is that he worked Moses Luke who is supposed to be their top heel, yet Mo struggled to win. I realise this was likely a matter of needing the matches to put in some time to give the fans a reasonably lengthy show, but Mo should have squashed him (and there are ways to drag a squash out for timing issues). The other problem was Scott's hot comeback. When Mo missed a second rope leg drop, the fans popped. He kicked Mo in the back and the fans popped. He then applied a chin lock, killing the heat. Chin locks should not be used in hot comebacks in my humble opinion. But I suppose it's a learning experience.
Dick Walker is the spitting image of Paul Giamatti. He even sounds a bit like him. There's got to be a gimmick there...
Speaking of separated at birth, how about Robby Royce and John Ferguson Jr??
Putting Kory Kinkade and Cory Diamond together is at least something...but what else can you do with those two? There doesn't seem to be any other tag teams, especially babyface ones, so maybe doing a program where The Two Cory's get closer and closer before finally upsetting the champs might get the kids behind them, I don't know.
Gene Swan worked the hardest of anyone on the show though his match was short. He actually did something other then a kick, punch, or chop. And his match was booked smartly as a glorified squash. He may be their best option for a top face since they have no one after Cutler. Merc can't be a top guy because he can't work and looked terribly lost in his match with Bratt, though he got the biggest pop of the night from the 40 kids in attendance.
My only beef with the main event would be, if you're going to promote a no-DQ match, you should probably do something that might normally garner a DQ, otherwise, just work a straight match.
The best match was probably Stardom vs Chris Dion because it was booked smartly. ie. it was a glorified squash to get Stardom over as he was winning the strap later in the show. It's the same thing they should have done with Mo - let him destroy some guys and get over.
I'm pretty hard on RME, but why wouldn't I be. If you're going to make bold statements about being a "growing company" or claim that everyone is jumping ship to work there or that PCW is on the decline and RME is going to surpass it, then you better be able to put your money where your mouth is. So far, RME has failed miserably to do that. I noticed their depth issues have caused them to be unable to even post a top ten ranking on their website.
I spoke to a member of their management and I must say, their entire way of thinking is warped. They claim they work the way they do because it was a kids show and if they had an adult-oriented event, the show would be different. Really? How so? Dropping F-bombs and bleeding does not make a show great. Great work makes a show great. Good work is good work regardless of what the audience looks like and bland, boring work is bland, boring work. I think the management team over there could really benefit from checking out our upcoming show and seeing what the best work in Manitoba is. It might open their eyes a bit.
I'm always open to constructive feedback and anyone who offers to help. The feeling I get from RME is that they have a very defensive, closed-minded attitude. Angus is like the emperor with no clothes.
All in all, I enjoyed the show as it was an experience. I like to watch live shows and it's nice to have someone run Winnipeg other then us. I'll probably try to check out their next couple of shows too.
For those that enjoy blogs, check out: http://meccaholic.blogspot.com/ the official blog of Shane Madison.
If you have the movie channels, you have to watch Californication. Starring David Duchovny, it's probably the smartest written show on TV right now and produced by Showtime.
I've always been a huge fan of Sid Vicious, who appears for Mike Davidson's WFX later this month. I would expect to see him in WWE again shortly and I question those people that think that's a bad idea. He was always super over and has mainstream appeal since he was well known during the Monday Night Wars. WWE might want to look at Scott Hall and X-Pac as well. Mentallo was working out with X-Pac this month and passed his information along to me actually.
One thing I miss about not conversing with Davidson as much is our spirited discussions regarding soap operas. He's much more educated about daytime then I as I am only a diehard Y&R fan. Y&R is a great example of how a bad booker with a great crew can kill a show. How anyone could take over that show and write it into the ground is beyond me, but it's happening. I'd like to hear Davidson's opinion on that.
I understand there will be a NWN show in Winnipeg later this month with some PCW Superstars.
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Thursday, September 13, 2007
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I notice Sid is now off the WFX page, is he no longer part of that? What is NWN and when are they running? Why is there not a central place to get info on Winnipeg wrestling shows? PCW has their own website, RME has a website but as of last week it hadn't been updated since late July, except to put a picture up of the September show dates. The Moondog board seems to be the only place to discuss different shows, and that's only if people involved feel like discussing them. There's some guy basically begging for info on WFX and being ignored.
I don't know what to say about RME. My conversations with Angus have always been professional and enjoyable. He puts in a lot of hours "pounding the pavement" to find new venues and shows.
I know that they mean well but their shows are definately lacking. They may need to totally overhaul their product but many of their guys have been around forever and still don't "get it". If the older guys don't get it how can any of the younger guys get it? And would a guy who has been around forever even listen to advice from someone who has less time than them in the business than them (even if they are right and have good ideas)? Probably not.
I think they have everything else a wrestling company could want (decent presentation, nice equipment, some form of strategic planning as far as where they want to be down the line, etc...) but they just don't have enough horses.
My understanding is Sid if off the WFX show. I will have a detailed blog about WFX, AWE and Mike Davidson's "failures" (lol) this weekend.
I would disagree that RME has a stretegic plan. They have no clue.
Reading though their "hidden" message board, they believe themselves to have the best crew possible, with Angus telling guys they work the crowd better then WWE does. When a show is the shits, Angus praises it as "the best show of the year".
And when their shortcoming are glaringly obvious, they defend it as if they meant to be shitty "because it's a kids show".
They refuse to go to other local shows because that would burst the bubble they live in where they are a dynamic, entertaining promotion that is developing the best talent.
If Angus was compared to a CEO of a "normal" company, he'd have been fired years ago for total failure to achieve any positive objectives.
The shows he pounds the pavement for are shows that guys like EZ and Collins get because they live in small towns and cultivate those relationships or they are CC's that anyone could book if they were foolish enough to want to.
I'm not saying it's easy - we run the LID and I am happy to do it, but Angus has done nothing to move RME forward. If PCW didn't exist, I would be very depressed about the state of the business in Manitoba.
Josh:
NWN is New Wrestling Nation which ran a show in BC earlier this year. I believe the show is part of a street fest on Sat. Sept. 22nd in the afternoon. It's downtown but I do not know exactly where.
According to Shane Madison's blog, Sid looks to be off the WFX show. I'm not sure if Rikishi will be there due to his TNA signing (but I don't know if he's under contract or not). Ultimo Dragon is booked and my choice of opponant would be Mentallo but I dont think he'll be back in time. Skillz or Kenny would be fanastic opponants as well, though I doubt those are viable options.
My best advice is to ignore the Manson forum. Visit our website. We'll have a forum back up shortly. Also, sometimes it's easier to email directly for information. For example, Mike has a contact address on his website.
I think RME has an idea as far as where they want to end up. I am just not sure if they have an action plan to get there. They need some help that's for sure.
Sid is out and Rikishi is NOT under contract to TNA.
Josh, I would suggest e-mailing Mike Davidson at mike@wfxwrestling.com with your ticket inquiries. I have no idea if they are on sale or where to get them.
NWN is running a spot show on the 22nd. This is the same company that ran in Prince George, BC on Jan. 22 this year. It is for some kind of street festival. Yesterday there were commercials on Shaw TV for this show. Not too sure if they are still airing today.
Madison, where is it you think RME wants to end up? They seem to be in the exact same place they were when they debuted.
I'm not trying to ignore anyone, I just very rarely get to scan the Moondog board. So many times those are aliases of someone who could just pick up the phone and call me, it just seems like it's an excercise in futility. Knowing the line-up is far from complete 2 weeks out, should explain that I'm swamped trying to get things done. So not trying to disrespect anyone.
Seeing as many read this blog, I'll leech on and give some info.
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Kishi Fatu vs. Andrew "Test" Martin- my gut, Kishi who is a good friend will sign a TNA deal, but will live up to his contractual obligations which take him through November.
Ugene Dinsmore vs. not quite sure yet
Synn & Johnny Handsome vs. Gangrel & Black Pearl
Ultimo Dragon vs. again not sure
Joey Mercury vs. Wavell Starr
Scotty Mac vs. unsure, maybe Marty Jannetty
Heidenreich vs. Orlando Jordan
Talia Madison vs. Angel Williams in the match I'm looking most forward too. Both women can work.
Brian Christopher vs. Tonga Kid aka Islander Tama
Buff Bagwell vs. Adam Knight
Andrew makes a solid suggestion on who could face Ultimo, and in the case of Kenny Omega it has merit. We have standing offers out to no fewer than 6 guys to fill the spot.
Thanks for posting the line up Mike. I look forward to the show, though I think you could certainly put over the merits of your show rather then put down mine.
A little defensive there Mike...lol
What are you referring to?
Your comments on that shitty Manson board which you are too busy to frequent.
Your show boasts a lot of quality talent so I see no reason to insult PCW in an effort to attack a couple of fans who have probably invested more time and money to the local business then any other fans ever have.
Mike Angels is one of the most talented indy guys in the country and though he doesn't look like a couple of the guys you'll bring in from some other locale, I would have greater condidence in his ability to out work them any day.
If your comment about pyschology was directed at our top guys, then perhaps you should sit down and discuss psychology with Kenny and Mentallo. I'd be interested in being a fly on the wall of that conversation.
No offense intended, but I am sure the RME crew, whose psychology might be more to your liking, would be available to work that night.
While I can see why certain fans would not find anything of interest on your event, I disagree and believe your show will be a fine event, stacked with plenty of big name performers with tons of mainstream appeal.
My comments were not intended to be offensive to anyone other than the person specifically directed to.
If he wants to call down an entire line-up minus Ultimo Dragon, and refer to them as shit, that's his right as a paying fan. I'd much rather he drop his money as a "fan" and invest that into your product which he clearly prefers.
I wanted my comments to offend him, as I'm sure his comments would offend talent that he wrote off as shit. I'll stand beside my product, as you will yours.
Singling out Mike Angels was nothing more than an effort to pick a guy I would expect is one of his favorites. Quite honestly I don't have an opinion on Angels one way or another, I've only seen him work once in the last 4 years but I will say that Ugene Dinsmore is very good, and I'd book Dinsmore over Angels.
The reference to his constant endorsement of one show that draws 30, while at the same time ripping apart another that drew hundreds is nothing more than to demonstrate his tastes are that of the much smaller minority.
Ok...
My later posts that I don't care if a person doesn't want to buy a ticket says it all. I want Wrestling Fans. People who still get excited when they watch Monday Night Raw, or people who still appreciate the mainstream appeal that our business has. I don't believe the individual qualifies.
If my effort to express my opinion didn't sit well with you, I'm sincerely sorry to you as a friend, but I don't apologize for the rant itself or my response to his needless negative opinion.
If you wish to echange "opinions" with that particular fan, then by all means do so. He can certainly hold his own. But ofcourse, we will both come to the defense of our respective shows and crews when attacked.
I know Dinsmore can work.
I would certanly clasify those particular fans as "fans" - they will buy tickets to a show no matter what and in some cases, simply to support the cause of indy wrestling.
Pusuing WWE fans is a novel approach, but with sagging ratings, booking several lower card WWE guys in an effort to attract those fans might be mis-directed.
Hardcore fans are the ones that will pay money to see former WWE guys on an indy show, in my opinion.
Those particular fans are also the type that will tirelessly plug the event to everyone they know (and many they don't). Selling them a ticket converts to several more. I've produced shows that I am sure niether one was impressed with. Goes with the territory as you well know.
I, specifically, am looking forward to the show as I am a big Ultimo and Gangrel fan.
To believe that Angels is one of the most talented guys in CANADA is not an over-statement. He is top 10 in the Country. Maybe even a
top 5. That statement makes you
look the genius.
Thanks anonymous. I appreciate that. Mike Angels is a fantastic performer in every regard.
The WFX show has a lot of big WWE guys. It just doesn't have any promise of really good matches. The PCW show does not have WWE guys but looks like the show with better matches. Six for one, half a dozen for the other.
With all due respect to the nameless one. How in the hell can you hope to say that Mike Angels is one of the top 5 workers in the country? Have you seen a majority of the wrestlers from around the country?
I've been in the business for 12 fucking years and I've only seen perhaps as much as 30% of the wrestlers in Canada. So I could never hope to boldly state a guy is top anything in the country.
Maybe you mean the province?
And this is not being said to slight Mike Angels in anyway. Let me be clear, I haven't watched a Mike Angels match since 2002, and hence I could not give an opinion. But be realistic when stating things like that.
WFX has many well thought out matchups. As does PCW. I encourage people to check out both shows if they see things they want to see on both. However, my heart is not broken if you don't come to the WFX show.
My opionion may be clouded but I would consider Mike Angels a top performer as far as indy guys in the country.
I base that on the limited exposure I have seen from other locales and the opinion of those locales by guys that have travelled there.
I also base it on the fact that Kenny is arguably the top prospect in Canada right now and I can compare Angels to him in a favourable light. In the same way, he can compare favourably to Mentallo who is destined for greatness as well.
But more important then anyones personal top ten list of favourite indy talent, I see Angels as a guy that always has fantastic matches, always gets a fantastic crowd reaction, and works hard within the team concept.
Coward.
Look you little genius. If the only way that I can make
myself feel better about my pathetic shit life is to post stupid comments on your fantastic blog, I am a bigger pussy than anyone ever could have imagined. I am a pussy Andrew. It's a shame I'm afraid to actually speak to you in person.
Sincerely,
Pussy.
Language, language.
Another davidson venture and another dyck scam. when will they learn? hey dyck is vince shaking in his boots yet? lol
so who exactly is on this show? No one from winnipeg? Why not? I'll save my money or go to the pcw show. At least I know there will be one good match.
I believe Adam Knight is scheduled for the event.
Three other guys told me they were booked but I have no idea if that is going to come to pass.
I do not know Jeff Dyck but everyone tells me he is aptly named. I don't know if that is true.
Perhaps there are not many people from Winnipeg on the show because they would like to make money and gain a good reputation.
Hey Andrew,
Getting back to RME comment a few threads ago,I just wanted to let you know I posted a new blog entitled "Top 10 ways to Improve RME". So there you go!
www.meccaholic.blogspot.com
True enough. If a company wants to be taken seriously, they should have maybe 2 or 3 guys from the city on the show, but no more.
So our show isn't "serious"? Come on, that's idiotic.
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